Why don't you put in your own new boxes with new clues? (written in
an encouraging manner) It sounds as if you think the park LBworthy.
Adopting boxes w/o permission is pretty presumptuous and is likely to
tick off the original placer. Many of the original placers like
KangamangusdaBull and Eric the Ram don't frequent the List anymore,
so it's hard to get in contact with them.
I have a whole theory on adoption of boxes. I actually believe that
a letterbox and its clues are the intellectual property of its
placer. Further I don't really believe that adopting a box preserves
the original integrity. So if you do not have permission to adopt a
box, it's tantamount to stealing. I don't see the need to retain
boxes against the placer's wishes or capabilities. Maybe, their
intention is to check on it every 5 years. It's true that some boxes
will disappear, but there are also so many more to find. Simply
plant your own box. That way you don't step on anyone's toes, or
alter someone else's artisic offerings.
However, adoption and maintenance are different. When you follow a
clue and find a box, you have been entrusted to preserve its intent.
This shows that you appreciate the effort of the placer. Further
gestures of appreciation include keeping a letterbox intact and dry
by repackaging properly, rehiding carefully, double bagging the log,
resealing the lid, making sure it remains a secret from "noxers",
contacting the placer, not giving shortcuts on the list, etc...
Doing these things will increase the longevity of a letterbox, so
that future finders (and placers) will not be discouraged.
BTW- The big push for adoption came when we switched over to the new
format (many Kudos to Wes and co.) and some of the placers weren't
aware of the new format. Therefore in order to be included in the
new format some boxes were temporarily adopted until the the original
placers could be reached. Some of those placers were grateful but
others were none-too-pleased about the adoptions.
Laurette
PS- although I responded specifically to Julia's post, my post is
indeed directed at the community at large (not just ~Oceanwytch~)
> Hello,
> I was wondering if anyone knew if Bulldog and The Ram were around
> here. I went to find their Wolf Neck Woods Letterboxes today and
> they were missing. Aparently they have been missing for a while. I
> was hoping to get in contact with them to either let them know, or
> ask if I could replace the boxes and adopt them for them. Anyone
> have any ideas what I should do? The clues are really great and the
> spots were wonderful, too. I feel there should be boxes there.
>
> ~Oceanwytch~
adopting boxes
15 messages in this thread |
Started on 2004-08-19
Re: adopting boxes
From: edelweiss (vitlaur@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-08-19 16:53:56 UTC
Re: adopting boxes
From: Julie (oceanwytch@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-19 17:12:22 UTC
Thank you very much for the advice/info. I wasn't really sure how to
work all this, since I wouldn't be adopting the box, just replacing
it. I think I will just go the safe road and place my own boxes.
There certainly is more than enough park to place a few boxes!
~Oceanwytch~
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "edelweiss"
wrote:
> Why don't you put in your own new boxes with new clues? (written
in
> an encouraging manner) It sounds as if you think the park
LBworthy.
> Adopting boxes w/o permission is pretty presumptuous and is likely
to
> tick off the original placer. Many of the original placers like
> KangamangusdaBull and Eric the Ram don't frequent the List anymore,
> so it's hard to get in contact with them.
(clip)
> However, adoption and maintenance are different. When you follow a
> clue and find a box, you have been entrusted to preserve its
intent.
> This shows that you appreciate the effort of the placer. Further
> gestures of appreciation include keeping a letterbox intact and dry
> by repackaging properly, rehiding carefully, double bagging the
log,
> resealing the lid, making sure it remains a secret from "noxers",
> contacting the placer, not giving shortcuts on the list, etc...
> Doing these things will increase the longevity of a letterbox, so
> that future finders (and placers) will not be discouraged.
>> Laurette
>
> PS- although I responded specifically to Julia's post, my post is
> indeed directed at the community at large (not just ~Oceanwytch~)
>
work all this, since I wouldn't be adopting the box, just replacing
it. I think I will just go the safe road and place my own boxes.
There certainly is more than enough park to place a few boxes!
~Oceanwytch~
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "edelweiss"
wrote:
> Why don't you put in your own new boxes with new clues? (written
in
> an encouraging manner) It sounds as if you think the park
LBworthy.
> Adopting boxes w/o permission is pretty presumptuous and is likely
to
> tick off the original placer. Many of the original placers like
> KangamangusdaBull and Eric the Ram don't frequent the List anymore,
> so it's hard to get in contact with them.
(clip)
> However, adoption and maintenance are different. When you follow a
> clue and find a box, you have been entrusted to preserve its
intent.
> This shows that you appreciate the effort of the placer. Further
> gestures of appreciation include keeping a letterbox intact and dry
> by repackaging properly, rehiding carefully, double bagging the
log,
> resealing the lid, making sure it remains a secret from "noxers",
> contacting the placer, not giving shortcuts on the list, etc...
> Doing these things will increase the longevity of a letterbox, so
> that future finders (and placers) will not be discouraged.
>> Laurette
>
> PS- although I responded specifically to Julia's post, my post is
> indeed directed at the community at large (not just ~Oceanwytch~)
>
Re: [LbNA] Re: adopting boxes
From: (martinyea@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-08-19 14:33:05 UTC-04:00
I recently learned about letterboxing and I am planning my daughter's
4-year-old birthday party. I know of two letterboxes at our local preserved gardens
and my husband and I would like to introduce the children to this art. Does
anyone have any ideas or experiences they would like to share for such a
celebration? I thought others might have done this with a group of small children and
would have some input.
BTW, I am not planning on having them carve personal stamps with their
parents, however, since they are only 4 and the gathering will only be for 2 hours.
They will each receive a log book and stamp when they arrive. Please let me
know if you have any ideas about this. Thanks,
C. Martin
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4-year-old birthday party. I know of two letterboxes at our local preserved gardens
and my husband and I would like to introduce the children to this art. Does
anyone have any ideas or experiences they would like to share for such a
celebration? I thought others might have done this with a group of small children and
would have some input.
BTW, I am not planning on having them carve personal stamps with their
parents, however, since they are only 4 and the gathering will only be for 2 hours.
They will each receive a log book and stamp when they arrive. Please let me
know if you have any ideas about this. Thanks,
C. Martin
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RE: [LbNA] Re: adopting boxes
From: Pam Kleingers (pam@kleingers.net) |
Date: 2004-08-19 15:05:15 UTC-04:00
Having planned many parties involving a treasure hunt either as a time
filler or as the central activity, and having boxed with a four year old, I
would suggest you plant boxes specifically for the event instead of using
established boxes. Realistically, how discreet can a group of four year
olds be? This way, you can introduce the hobby and give more information to
the parents who may be interested without compromising existing boxes by
exposing them to others who may do them harm either purposefully or through
carelessness.
Have you had much experience letterboxing yourself yet and have you
personally found the boxes you are considering having the kids hunt for?
You may want to spend some time observing the general area, especially at a
time similar to when the party will be held. You might be surprised at the
difference in traffic on a Sat. afternoon vs. a Tuesday morning. Also, keep
in mind the weather vagarities and the interest level and attention span of
the four year olds.
If you search the archives, there are lots of good posts on boxing with
groups such as Scouts that might give you some ideas on planning an event
specific to your needs.
Mama Stork
aka Pam in Cinci
>
>
> I recently learned about letterboxing and I am planning my daughter's
> 4-year-old birthday party. I know of two letterboxes at our
> local preserved gardens
> and my husband and I would like to introduce the children to
> this art. Does
> anyone have any ideas or experiences they would like to share
> for such a
> celebration? I thought others might have done this with a
> group of small children and
> would have some input.
>
> BTW, I am not planning on having them carve personal stamps
> with their
> parents, however, since they are only 4 and the gathering
> will only be for 2 hours.
> They will each receive a log book and stamp when they arrive.
> Please let me
> know if you have any ideas about this. Thanks,
>
> C. Martin
>
>>
filler or as the central activity, and having boxed with a four year old, I
would suggest you plant boxes specifically for the event instead of using
established boxes. Realistically, how discreet can a group of four year
olds be? This way, you can introduce the hobby and give more information to
the parents who may be interested without compromising existing boxes by
exposing them to others who may do them harm either purposefully or through
carelessness.
Have you had much experience letterboxing yourself yet and have you
personally found the boxes you are considering having the kids hunt for?
You may want to spend some time observing the general area, especially at a
time similar to when the party will be held. You might be surprised at the
difference in traffic on a Sat. afternoon vs. a Tuesday morning. Also, keep
in mind the weather vagarities and the interest level and attention span of
the four year olds.
If you search the archives, there are lots of good posts on boxing with
groups such as Scouts that might give you some ideas on planning an event
specific to your needs.
Mama Stork
aka Pam in Cinci
>
>
> I recently learned about letterboxing and I am planning my daughter's
> 4-year-old birthday party. I know of two letterboxes at our
> local preserved gardens
> and my husband and I would like to introduce the children to
> this art. Does
> anyone have any ideas or experiences they would like to share
> for such a
> celebration? I thought others might have done this with a
> group of small children and
> would have some input.
>
> BTW, I am not planning on having them carve personal stamps
> with their
> parents, however, since they are only 4 and the gathering
> will only be for 2 hours.
> They will each receive a log book and stamp when they arrive.
> Please let me
> know if you have any ideas about this. Thanks,
>
> C. Martin
>
>>
Re: [LbNA] Re: adopting boxes
From: (CountdownTo55@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-08-19 18:28:48 UTC-04:00
In a message dated 8/19/2004 1:54:00 PM Central Standard Time,
martinyea@aol.com writes:
I recently learned about letterboxing and I am planning my daughter's
4-year-old birthday party. I know of two letterboxes at our local preserved
gardens
and my husband and I would like to introduce the children to this art. Does
anyone have any ideas or experiences they would like to share for such a
celebration? I thought others might have done this with a group of small
children and
would have some input.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I would ditto other folks' advice and say that 4 might be a bit young for
finding somebody else's boxes. You don't mention how large the group of children
will be or how many parents will be along to help supervise, or what hazards
might exist at the preserved gardens.
Having done this a bit with small groups of children, the youngest age I'm
comfortable working with is around 9 or so, because they're very capable of
understanding what's involved and able to get caught up in the spirit of it.
That's not to say adults don't do it very successfully with very young children,
but it's usually more of a one-on-one situation and it's not really with a
"party" atmosphere.
I thought the idea of planting boxes yourself, either in your own yard if you
have one, or at a local park frequented by children was a great one. You
could even decorate the box more along the lines of what might attract a young
child with stickers and such. And given the attention span of a 4 year old,
you'd be a lot less likely to run into problems. Tell the parents to have
everyone wear their absolute grubbies and they can all have fun stamping each other
to death. You could put little prizes or tinkets in each box as well.
Pippi L
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
martinyea@aol.com writes:
I recently learned about letterboxing and I am planning my daughter's
4-year-old birthday party. I know of two letterboxes at our local preserved
gardens
and my husband and I would like to introduce the children to this art. Does
anyone have any ideas or experiences they would like to share for such a
celebration? I thought others might have done this with a group of small
children and
would have some input.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I would ditto other folks' advice and say that 4 might be a bit young for
finding somebody else's boxes. You don't mention how large the group of children
will be or how many parents will be along to help supervise, or what hazards
might exist at the preserved gardens.
Having done this a bit with small groups of children, the youngest age I'm
comfortable working with is around 9 or so, because they're very capable of
understanding what's involved and able to get caught up in the spirit of it.
That's not to say adults don't do it very successfully with very young children,
but it's usually more of a one-on-one situation and it's not really with a
"party" atmosphere.
I thought the idea of planting boxes yourself, either in your own yard if you
have one, or at a local park frequented by children was a great one. You
could even decorate the box more along the lines of what might attract a young
child with stickers and such. And given the attention span of a 4 year old,
you'd be a lot less likely to run into problems. Tell the parents to have
everyone wear their absolute grubbies and they can all have fun stamping each other
to death. You could put little prizes or tinkets in each box as well.
Pippi L
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[LbNA] Re: adopting boxes
From: ltrboxingrichters (ltrboxingrichters@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-19 22:58:37 UTC
We are in the process of planning an outing for cub scouts in
conjunction with NPLD. I searched the archives for the suggestions
you mentioned without any luck.
How could I find these old posts?
Thanks for the help.
Letterboxing Richters
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Pam Kleingers"
wrote:
> Having planned many parties involving a treasure hunt either as a
time
> filler or as the central activity, and having boxed with a four
year old, I
> would suggest you plant boxes specifically for the event instead of
using
> established boxes. Realistically, how discreet can a group of four
year
> olds be? This way, you can introduce the hobby and give more
information to
> the parents who may be interested without compromising existing
boxes by
> exposing them to others who may do them harm either purposefully or
through
> carelessness.
>
>
> Have you had much experience letterboxing yourself yet and have you
> personally found the boxes you are considering having the kids hunt
for?
> You may want to spend some time observing the general area,
especially at a
> time similar to when the party will be held. You might be surprised
at the
> difference in traffic on a Sat. afternoon vs. a Tuesday morning.
Also, keep
> in mind the weather vagarities and the interest level and attention
span of
> the four year olds.
>
> If you search the archives, there are lots of good posts on boxing
with
> groups such as Scouts that might give you some ideas on planning an
event
> specific to your needs.
>
>
>
> Mama Stork
> aka Pam in Cinci
> >
>
conjunction with NPLD. I searched the archives for the suggestions
you mentioned without any luck.
How could I find these old posts?
Thanks for the help.
Letterboxing Richters
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Pam Kleingers"
wrote:
> Having planned many parties involving a treasure hunt either as a
time
> filler or as the central activity, and having boxed with a four
year old, I
> would suggest you plant boxes specifically for the event instead of
using
> established boxes. Realistically, how discreet can a group of four
year
> olds be? This way, you can introduce the hobby and give more
information to
> the parents who may be interested without compromising existing
boxes by
> exposing them to others who may do them harm either purposefully or
through
> carelessness.
>
>
> Have you had much experience letterboxing yourself yet and have you
> personally found the boxes you are considering having the kids hunt
for?
> You may want to spend some time observing the general area,
especially at a
> time similar to when the party will be held. You might be surprised
at the
> difference in traffic on a Sat. afternoon vs. a Tuesday morning.
Also, keep
> in mind the weather vagarities and the interest level and attention
span of
> the four year olds.
>
> If you search the archives, there are lots of good posts on boxing
with
> groups such as Scouts that might give you some ideas on planning an
event
> specific to your needs.
>
>
>
> Mama Stork
> aka Pam in Cinci
> >
>
[LbNA] Re: adopting boxes
From: The Family (lynnieth2003@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-20 00:13:49 UTC
Let me offer a better suggestion- for your daughter's birthday take
HER letterboxing but skip taking a group of 4-year olds AND their
parents. Letterboxing is not an activity in which you want to
involve a group of 20 people. The point is to be unobserved,
unobtrusive & remain somewhat secretive which is impossible to do
with a gaggle of small children.
I box with a 2 year-old & 6-year old. On occasion we take 1 of my 6-
year old's friends & parents & that is more than enough people in
the group. Sometimes it seems like too many. Young children tire
easily- & while your child may have the stamina to go 2 hours, I
assure you that many of her friends will tire & bore after the first
20 minutes causing frustration & disappointment all around.
Your intentions are wonderful, but think it through- this has
gallactically bad idea written all over it. If your daughter wants
to get her friends involved, invite them to join you one weekend,
one family at a time. Some will join in your adventure, others
won't have any interest at all (don't take it personally). But
letterboxing is not a party activity.
The Family
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, martinyea@a... wrote:
> I recently learned about letterboxing and I am planning my
daughter's
> 4-year-old birthday party. I know of two letterboxes at our local
preserved gardens
> and my husband and I would like to introduce the children to this
art. Does
> anyone have any ideas or experiences they would like to share for
such a
> celebration? I thought others might have done this with a group of
small children and
> would have some input.
>
> BTW, I am not planning on having them carve personal stamps with
their
> parents, however, since they are only 4 and the gathering will
only be for 2 hours.
> They will each receive a log book and stamp when they arrive.
Please let me
> know if you have any ideas about this. Thanks,
>
> C. Martin
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
HER letterboxing but skip taking a group of 4-year olds AND their
parents. Letterboxing is not an activity in which you want to
involve a group of 20 people. The point is to be unobserved,
unobtrusive & remain somewhat secretive which is impossible to do
with a gaggle of small children.
I box with a 2 year-old & 6-year old. On occasion we take 1 of my 6-
year old's friends & parents & that is more than enough people in
the group. Sometimes it seems like too many. Young children tire
easily- & while your child may have the stamina to go 2 hours, I
assure you that many of her friends will tire & bore after the first
20 minutes causing frustration & disappointment all around.
Your intentions are wonderful, but think it through- this has
gallactically bad idea written all over it. If your daughter wants
to get her friends involved, invite them to join you one weekend,
one family at a time. Some will join in your adventure, others
won't have any interest at all (don't take it personally). But
letterboxing is not a party activity.
The Family
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, martinyea@a... wrote:
> I recently learned about letterboxing and I am planning my
daughter's
> 4-year-old birthday party. I know of two letterboxes at our local
preserved gardens
> and my husband and I would like to introduce the children to this
art. Does
> anyone have any ideas or experiences they would like to share for
such a
> celebration? I thought others might have done this with a group of
small children and
> would have some input.
>
> BTW, I am not planning on having them carve personal stamps with
their
> parents, however, since they are only 4 and the gathering will
only be for 2 hours.
> They will each receive a log book and stamp when they arrive.
Please let me
> know if you have any ideas about this. Thanks,
>
> C. Martin
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [LbNA] Re: adopting boxes
From: (Gurudybaker@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-08-19 20:29:31 UTC-04:00
I agree. Not a party activity.
STAR:W+S=DRR
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STAR:W+S=DRR
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [LbNA] Re: adopting boxes
From: Karen Ruhl (ruhlette@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-19 17:40:39 UTC-07:00
My almost 4-year old niece went letterboxing with me last weekend. I
suggest not walking too far, too far into the unknown, carrying water and
snacks, but making sure they understand they are to leave no trace behind.
Be prepared to be sidetracked ... we played in the creek and she wanted
to be carried all the way home to have her milk. Just my experience.
speedsquare
--- Pam Kleingers wrote:
> Having planned many parties involving a treasure hunt either as a time
> filler or as the central activity, and having boxed with a four year
> old, I
> would suggest you plant boxes specifically for the event instead of
> using
> established boxes. Realistically, how discreet can a group of four year
> olds be? This way, you can introduce the hobby and give more
> information to
> the parents who may be interested without compromising existing boxes by
> exposing them to others who may do them harm either purposefully or
> through
> carelessness.
>
>
> Have you had much experience letterboxing yourself yet and have you
> personally found the boxes you are considering having the kids hunt for?
> You may want to spend some time observing the general area, especially
> at a
> time similar to when the party will be held. You might be surprised at
> the
> difference in traffic on a Sat. afternoon vs. a Tuesday morning. Also,
> keep
> in mind the weather vagarities and the interest level and attention span
> of
> the four year olds.
>
> If you search the archives, there are lots of good posts on boxing with
> groups such as Scouts that might give you some ideas on planning an
> event
> specific to your needs.
>
>
>
> Mama Stork
> aka Pam in Cinci
> >
> >
> > I recently learned about letterboxing and I am planning my daughter's
> > 4-year-old birthday party. I know of two letterboxes at our
> > local preserved gardens
> > and my husband and I would like to introduce the children to
> > this art. Does
> > anyone have any ideas or experiences they would like to share
> > for such a
> > celebration? I thought others might have done this with a
> > group of small children and
> > would have some input.
> >
> > BTW, I am not planning on having them carve personal stamps
> > with their
> > parents, however, since they are only 4 and the gathering
> > will only be for 2 hours.
> > They will each receive a log book and stamp when they arrive.
> > Please let me
> > know if you have any ideas about this. Thanks,
> >
> > C. Martin
> >
> >>
>
>
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suggest not walking too far, too far into the unknown, carrying water and
snacks, but making sure they understand they are to leave no trace behind.
Be prepared to be sidetracked ... we played in the creek and she wanted
to be carried all the way home to have her milk. Just my experience.
speedsquare
--- Pam Kleingers
> Having planned many parties involving a treasure hunt either as a time
> filler or as the central activity, and having boxed with a four year
> old, I
> would suggest you plant boxes specifically for the event instead of
> using
> established boxes. Realistically, how discreet can a group of four year
> olds be? This way, you can introduce the hobby and give more
> information to
> the parents who may be interested without compromising existing boxes by
> exposing them to others who may do them harm either purposefully or
> through
> carelessness.
>
>
> Have you had much experience letterboxing yourself yet and have you
> personally found the boxes you are considering having the kids hunt for?
> You may want to spend some time observing the general area, especially
> at a
> time similar to when the party will be held. You might be surprised at
> the
> difference in traffic on a Sat. afternoon vs. a Tuesday morning. Also,
> keep
> in mind the weather vagarities and the interest level and attention span
> of
> the four year olds.
>
> If you search the archives, there are lots of good posts on boxing with
> groups such as Scouts that might give you some ideas on planning an
> event
> specific to your needs.
>
>
>
> Mama Stork
> aka Pam in Cinci
> >
> >
> > I recently learned about letterboxing and I am planning my daughter's
> > 4-year-old birthday party. I know of two letterboxes at our
> > local preserved gardens
> > and my husband and I would like to introduce the children to
> > this art. Does
> > anyone have any ideas or experiences they would like to share
> > for such a
> > celebration? I thought others might have done this with a
> > group of small children and
> > would have some input.
> >
> > BTW, I am not planning on having them carve personal stamps
> > with their
> > parents, however, since they are only 4 and the gathering
> > will only be for 2 hours.
> > They will each receive a log book and stamp when they arrive.
> > Please let me
> > know if you have any ideas about this. Thanks,
> >
> > C. Martin
> >
> >>
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Re: adopting boxes
From: Barefoot Lucy (barefootlucy@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-19 20:12:59 UTC-07:00
There was a topic back last October or so called
"boxing with scouts." Try that. I know it was in
October because that's when we took our Wolves camping
and tried a very basic version of lb'ing.
Lucy
--- ltrboxingrichters
wrote:
> We are in the process of planning an outing for cub
> scouts in
> conjunction with NPLD. I searched the archives for
> the suggestions
> you mentioned without any luck.
>
> How could I find these old posts?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Letterboxing Richters
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Pam
> Kleingers"
> wrote:
> > Having planned many parties involving a treasure
> hunt either as a
> time
> > filler or as the central activity, and having
> boxed with a four
> year old, I
> > would suggest you plant boxes specifically for the
> event instead of
> using
> > established boxes. Realistically, how discreet
> can a group of four
> year
> > olds be? This way, you can introduce the hobby
> and give more
> information to
> > the parents who may be interested without
> compromising existing
> boxes by
> > exposing them to others who may do them harm
> either purposefully or
> through
> > carelessness.
> >
> >
> > Have you had much experience letterboxing yourself
> yet and have you
> > personally found the boxes you are considering
> having the kids hunt
> for?
> > You may want to spend some time observing the
> general area,
> especially at a
> > time similar to when the party will be held. You
> might be surprised
> at the
> > difference in traffic on a Sat. afternoon vs. a
> Tuesday morning.
> Also, keep
> > in mind the weather vagarities and the interest
> level and attention
> span of
> > the four year olds.
> >
> > If you search the archives, there are lots of good
> posts on boxing
> with
> > groups such as Scouts that might give you some
> ideas on planning an
> event
> > specific to your needs.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mama Stork
> > aka Pam in Cinci
> > >
> >
>
>
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"boxing with scouts." Try that. I know it was in
October because that's when we took our Wolves camping
and tried a very basic version of lb'ing.
Lucy
--- ltrboxingrichters
wrote:
> We are in the process of planning an outing for cub
> scouts in
> conjunction with NPLD. I searched the archives for
> the suggestions
> you mentioned without any luck.
>
> How could I find these old posts?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Letterboxing Richters
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Pam
> Kleingers"
> wrote:
> > Having planned many parties involving a treasure
> hunt either as a
> time
> > filler or as the central activity, and having
> boxed with a four
> year old, I
> > would suggest you plant boxes specifically for the
> event instead of
> using
> > established boxes. Realistically, how discreet
> can a group of four
> year
> > olds be? This way, you can introduce the hobby
> and give more
> information to
> > the parents who may be interested without
> compromising existing
> boxes by
> > exposing them to others who may do them harm
> either purposefully or
> through
> > carelessness.
> >
> >
> > Have you had much experience letterboxing yourself
> yet and have you
> > personally found the boxes you are considering
> having the kids hunt
> for?
> > You may want to spend some time observing the
> general area,
> especially at a
> > time similar to when the party will be held. You
> might be surprised
> at the
> > difference in traffic on a Sat. afternoon vs. a
> Tuesday morning.
> Also, keep
> > in mind the weather vagarities and the interest
> level and attention
> span of
> > the four year olds.
> >
> > If you search the archives, there are lots of good
> posts on boxing
> with
> > groups such as Scouts that might give you some
> ideas on planning an
> event
> > specific to your needs.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mama Stork
> > aka Pam in Cinci
> > >
> >
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Re: adopting boxes
From: Anna Lisa Yoder (annalisa@fast.net) |
Date: 2004-08-20 00:50:46 UTC-04:00
Edelweiss (or someone else who knows), could you just explain for some of us newer folks what you meant by having switched over to the "new format" and some of the original placers not being aware of it? I wasn't sure what you're referring to there, having only been in this hobby for six months. Thanks! --lunaryakketyact
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[LbNA] Re: adopting boxes
From: edelweiss (vitlaur@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-08-20 13:16:51 UTC
Well, let's see.
First of all, it helps to note that the LBNA website (where the clues
are hosted) is a different site from the talklist.
For several years, when LB was in its early stages in the US, people
posted their new clues directly to the talklist. This was the mode
of choice for dissemination of clues. After the clues were posted,
some kindhearted webmaster would magically get them to appear on the
LBNA web page in the clue section. If there was a change in the
clue, or it went missing, you had to notify the webmaster and they
would then need to make the changes for you. So the website and the
talklist were intergral to each other. However, as the number of
boxes increased, being a webmaster became a Herculean chore. So Wes
(and some of his elves) created a new format in which members of LBNA
could post clues directly to the website, eliminating the data entry
chore for the webmasters and giving the job of maintining clues
directly to the placer. There are also new search functions. This
is how it is done now. Over the course of a few months (I don't
remember exactly when, but I think it was around early spring
2003???) the new LBNA replaced the old LBNA and all of the boxes in
the old site needed to be transferred, this time by the
owners/placers, to the new LBNA. Any boxes that were not transferred
were archived. Some people became temporary caretakers of a box
until its owner was able to be notified. This is also why we know
boxes have not been missing for years and years, maybe just 1, if at
all. ;)
Laurette
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Anna Lisa Yoder"
wrote:
> Edelweiss (or someone else who knows), could you just explain for
some of us newer folks what you meant by having switched over to
the "new format" and some of the original placers not being aware of
it? I wasn't sure what you're referring to there, having only been
in this hobby for six months. Thanks! --lunaryakketyact
First of all, it helps to note that the LBNA website (where the clues
are hosted) is a different site from the talklist.
For several years, when LB was in its early stages in the US, people
posted their new clues directly to the talklist. This was the mode
of choice for dissemination of clues. After the clues were posted,
some kindhearted webmaster would magically get them to appear on the
LBNA web page in the clue section. If there was a change in the
clue, or it went missing, you had to notify the webmaster and they
would then need to make the changes for you. So the website and the
talklist were intergral to each other. However, as the number of
boxes increased, being a webmaster became a Herculean chore. So Wes
(and some of his elves) created a new format in which members of LBNA
could post clues directly to the website, eliminating the data entry
chore for the webmasters and giving the job of maintining clues
directly to the placer. There are also new search functions. This
is how it is done now. Over the course of a few months (I don't
remember exactly when, but I think it was around early spring
2003???) the new LBNA replaced the old LBNA and all of the boxes in
the old site needed to be transferred, this time by the
owners/placers, to the new LBNA. Any boxes that were not transferred
were archived. Some people became temporary caretakers of a box
until its owner was able to be notified. This is also why we know
boxes have not been missing for years and years, maybe just 1, if at
all. ;)
Laurette
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Anna Lisa Yoder"
> Edelweiss (or someone else who knows), could you just explain for
some of us newer folks what you meant by having switched over to
the "new format" and some of the original placers not being aware of
it? I wasn't sure what you're referring to there, having only been
in this hobby for six months. Thanks! --lunaryakketyact
[LbNA] Re: adopting boxes
From: catbead1 (libby@twcny.rr.com) |
Date: 2004-08-20 21:06:52 UTC
I have to toss my 2 in.
Sometimes the placer quietly decides to let the box slide from public
view even though it is still well maintained (and visited). Perhaps
the placement was a tribute to a loved one who passed away, and when
first placed the clues were posted on the LbNA site. Then, as time
passed, the family chose for it to be a more personal box and not as
public as before. So technically the box is alive and well, it just
*looks* abandoned with no viable contact information.
In a situation where the *abandoned* box is clearly maintained, I'd
say leave it but keep an eye on it. Replace baggies, etc. if ever
needed, and if at any time it looks like it really is in decline, then
step in....but not until then.
catbead
Sometimes the placer quietly decides to let the box slide from public
view even though it is still well maintained (and visited). Perhaps
the placement was a tribute to a loved one who passed away, and when
first placed the clues were posted on the LbNA site. Then, as time
passed, the family chose for it to be a more personal box and not as
public as before. So technically the box is alive and well, it just
*looks* abandoned with no viable contact information.
In a situation where the *abandoned* box is clearly maintained, I'd
say leave it but keep an eye on it. Replace baggies, etc. if ever
needed, and if at any time it looks like it really is in decline, then
step in....but not until then.
catbead
Re: [LbNA] Re: adopting boxes
From: (mindizney@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-08-20 17:21:42 UTC-04:00
I would have to agree with Libby.
This past weekend, I went to the first box I ever found while letterboxing.
Butterfly had a copy of the clues (she has copies of almost EVERYTHING in CT
that she hasn't done), so we ventured out. When we got to the box, it was out
in the open, lid off, no logbook, and totally filled with water to the point
that it was almost overflowing and the stamp was totally ruined. We decided to
pull the box and contact the adopter on Butterfly's clues (not knowing that
it had been taken off of the LBNA clue site). We were notified by the former
adopter that the planter had gotten ticked off at the adopter for adopting the
box. Planter name was attempted to be changed back to the planter, and
somehow the clues fell off the face of the website (fairly long ago I found out).
Needless to say, if the planter was THAT worried about their box, they would
have kept up with it's upkeep. Now, I'm trying to locate the planter to find
out what to do with the box, and I can't.
In closing, I feel as though it is important to try to keep up with boxes
that you plant, even if they are planted out of state. I don't mean that the
planter needs to have it adopted on the site, but at least have someone in the
area of your box to go back and check on it periodically.
OK.... I'll stop venting now
Music Woman
(who has a few boxes of her own in other states, and always tries to keep up
with them)
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This past weekend, I went to the first box I ever found while letterboxing.
Butterfly had a copy of the clues (she has copies of almost EVERYTHING in CT
that she hasn't done), so we ventured out. When we got to the box, it was out
in the open, lid off, no logbook, and totally filled with water to the point
that it was almost overflowing and the stamp was totally ruined. We decided to
pull the box and contact the adopter on Butterfly's clues (not knowing that
it had been taken off of the LBNA clue site). We were notified by the former
adopter that the planter had gotten ticked off at the adopter for adopting the
box. Planter name was attempted to be changed back to the planter, and
somehow the clues fell off the face of the website (fairly long ago I found out).
Needless to say, if the planter was THAT worried about their box, they would
have kept up with it's upkeep. Now, I'm trying to locate the planter to find
out what to do with the box, and I can't.
In closing, I feel as though it is important to try to keep up with boxes
that you plant, even if they are planted out of state. I don't mean that the
planter needs to have it adopted on the site, but at least have someone in the
area of your box to go back and check on it periodically.
OK.... I'll stop venting now
Music Woman
(who has a few boxes of her own in other states, and always tries to keep up
with them)
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Wanted - boxsitters (Was Re: adopting boxes)
From: zed_boxing (szorzi_1999@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-20 22:33:18 UTC
I've planted 2 boxes so far in areas to which I may NEVER return.
Will someone be a boxsitter for "Gatlinburg" in (duh) Gatlinburg, TN
and/or for "House of Peace" in Trussville, AL.
Gatlinburg was alive and well as of early August. I've not heard a
word about House of Peace since I planted it just before Easter.
If someone can check on either of these from time to time, please
email me offlist.
Thanks and happy hunting,
Zed
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, mindizney@a... wrote:
> In closing, I feel as though it is important to try to keep up
with boxes
> that you plant, even if they are planted out of state. I don't
mean that the
> planter needs to have it adopted on the site, but at least have
someone in the
> area of your box to go back and check on it periodically.
Will someone be a boxsitter for "Gatlinburg" in (duh) Gatlinburg, TN
and/or for "House of Peace" in Trussville, AL.
Gatlinburg was alive and well as of early August. I've not heard a
word about House of Peace since I planted it just before Easter.
If someone can check on either of these from time to time, please
email me offlist.
Thanks and happy hunting,
Zed
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, mindizney@a... wrote:
> In closing, I feel as though it is important to try to keep up
with boxes
> that you plant, even if they are planted out of state. I don't
mean that the
> planter needs to have it adopted on the site, but at least have
someone in the
> area of your box to go back and check on it periodically.